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Porting => iPhone 4 => Topic started by: bestlink101 on December 03, 2010, 02:02:21 AM

Title: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: bestlink101 on December 03, 2010, 02:02:21 AM
I have a Iphone 4, what can i do to help develope Idroid for iphone
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: ddominator on December 03, 2010, 03:00:38 AM
Well the project needs a hexrays ARM decompiler license that costs around $2,000. That will speed things up.

But if you want to help in developing for iPhone 4, do you have great hacking or reverse engineering skills?
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: Popple3 on December 04, 2010, 12:29:41 AM
Well the project needs a hexrays ARM decompiler license that costs around $2,000. That will speed things up.
^ This

Or of course, as ddominator failed to point out, you could hit that little donate button on the main wiki page to contribute towards it, server costs, or new devices. The team will decide what it will go to, but 100% of it will go towards the project.

The team are grateful for any donations to help with costs :)
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: wlt333 on December 04, 2010, 06:49:39 PM
Well the project needs a hexrays ARM decompiler license that costs around $2,000. That will speed things up.
^ This

Or of course, as ddominator failed to point out, you could hit that little donate button on the main wiki page to contribute towards it, server costs, or new devices. The team will decide what it will go to, but 100% of it will go towards the project.

The team are grateful for any donations to help with costs :)
I think you guys shoulld set up a separate fund for this, I believe it will draw people in, if you tell them specifically, what they are donating for right now... and reight now, we need an ARM decompiler! lol
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: ddominator on December 04, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Well the project needs a hexrays ARM decompiler license that costs around $2,000. That will speed things up.
^ This

Or of course, as ddominator failed to point out, you could hit that little donate button on the main wiki page to contribute towards it, server costs, or new devices. The team will decide what it will go to, but 100% of it will go towards the project.

The team are grateful for any donations to help with costs :)
I think you guys shoulld set up a separate fund for this, I believe it will draw people in, if you tell them specifically, what they are donating for right now... and reight now, we need an ARM decompiler! lol
Here's where to donate and yes, there are separate funds.
http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Donations
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: SeanKPS on December 06, 2010, 11:38:19 PM
Well the project needs a hexrays ARM decompiler license that costs around $2,000.
$2000 dollars for a license? Can't you just pirate it? I know that sounds crazy, but who would know or care? Or does it have some uncrackable DRM or something?
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: bestlink101 on December 11, 2010, 03:58:56 AM
what about beta testing or something
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: Rekoil on December 11, 2010, 09:10:23 AM
what about beta testing or something
I'm afraid there's nothing to beta test yet, we've barely got a console running on it, no Linux kernel booting yet. The most you can do to speed up development is donate towards the aTV2G (http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Donations) for one of the developers to give them access to an A4 device.
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: belrik on December 14, 2010, 11:40:10 AM
Donated $10 to the Apple TV 2G. I'd really like to see Android on the Apple TV, it's amazingly powerful hardware that blows beagleboard etc out of the water and I'd love to see linux running on this sucker :) 

I'm not a great coder (I am a great sysadmin but that's another story ;o) ) so unless you want me to fix something with Perl or hit a box with a hammer until it works then I'm not gonna be a great help.  Having said that I've got loads of Linux experience and I'd love to beta (alpha?) test a version of Linux on the Apple TV 2G.

cheers
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: willpower101 on December 14, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
So I'm looking at the donations.
You guys need 100 bucks for an apple tv?
250 for an ipod?

In my hacking experience, devs generally supply their own equipment. It don't think it's too much to ask for whoever is working on the apple tv to pony up 100 bucks. I one easily recoup that if i sold my video card or something like that dealt with one a little less powerful.
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: nickp666 on December 14, 2010, 07:21:24 PM
So I'm looking at the donations.
You guys need 100 bucks for an apple tv?
250 for an ipod?

In my hacking experience, devs generally supply their own equipment. It don't think it's too much to ask for whoever is working on the apple tv to pony up 100 bucks. I one easily recoup that if i sold my video card or something like that dealt with one a little less powerful.

I'm not sure I quite understand your logic here, someone has asked for a port to a device none of the developers own, and you expect one of the developers to buy one to fulfill this request?

Ultimately, people hack what they own, this tends not to include purchasing additional hardware unless it is peripherals for the device they already own or something they are already actively interested in purchasing.

You overlook the fact that the project already costs us money (For example, I pay for a dedicated server and associated bandwidth just to host the downloads), some of us have already purchased additional devices in order to speed up ports (rekoil for example sent myself a first gen iPod touch so that I can work on the port for that), some developers partly subsidise costs for code signing certificates etc etc - I could go on all day with this one, but ultimately this is not the point.

I apologise if my response seems unfair, but I dont think its unreasonable for us to offer the ability to donate money towards particular devices if people want ports to them and we dont own them, its not like we force the issue, we make do with what we have and the page is there if people WANT to donate to us, you'll notice that the donations page is not even linked in from the home page on the wiki.

 I dont see that it is our job to purchase every device whether or not we actually want to own it just so that there is the option of a port, ultimately people will buy and hack what they want to.
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: Rekoil on December 14, 2010, 08:31:27 PM
So I'm looking at the donations.
You guys need 100 bucks for an apple tv?
250 for an ipod?

In my hacking experience, devs generally supply their own equipment. It don't think it's too much to ask for whoever is working on the apple tv to pony up 100 bucks. I one easily recoup that if i sold my video card or something like that dealt with one a little less powerful.
Ditto what nickp666 said, but I would also like to chirp in a little. The fact is that writing drivers for largely undocumented hardware is not an easy task any random person can just pick up. As it is at the moment we have 2-3 really talented guys, and a few others who are in the process of learning this... shall we say art? One of them is at uni, the other hasn't even started uni yet, you think they can afford to just go out and purchase all of the devices just so they can provide you with a port? Like I said, it's not really a matter for just any guy who owns an aTV 2G and has access to notepad to simply sit down and churn out drivers, if it were that easy we'd have support for a lot more hardware than we do at the moment.

Like nickp666 also said nobody is being forced to donate anything. Just know that all (and I mean ALL) of the donated money goes towards helping this project. We're not taking anything for ourselves or paying anyone to work (besides supplying devices for porting). I know this because I happen to be the one who manages the money.
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: sjorge on December 14, 2010, 11:10:03 PM
Lots of great post recently, I think it boils down to:
1. People hack for fun and the challenge
2. Writing drivers isn't easy, take time. But this is probably what makes it fun for some people.
3. Hosting all this cost money so donations are welcome, but even without people would hack... It would just take longer and have less of a community to bounce around ideas and get people interested.

And probably more stuff but I'm typing on my iPhone so I'll end here, may revisit at some point when I'm on a desktop or laptop.
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: pointless6 on December 22, 2010, 11:35:04 AM
Can someone give me an estimate of how much of a donation the iDroid team would need to really get this project off the ground?

Maybe you could set a donation goal and a java donation counter to encourage consumers and supporters to chip in.

Until reading this thread i wasn't aware of what software/hardware you were lacking. It would be a good idea to set up newsletters and shout out emails.

for example(){

"hexrays ARM decompiler license needed. can anyone help?"

}

edit: ignore last post. Lost connection
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: sjorge on December 22, 2010, 12:01:17 PM
Can someone give me an estimate of how much of a donation the iDroid team would need to really get this project off the ground?

Maybe you could set a donation goal and a java donation counter to encourage consumers and supporters to chip in.

Until reading this thread i wasn't aware of what software/hardware you were lacking. It would be a good idea to set up newsletters and shout out emails.

for example(){

"hexrays ARM decompiler license needed. can anyone help?"

}

edit: ignore last post. Lost connection

http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Donations
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: pointless6 on December 23, 2010, 09:39:26 AM
Wow, haha that's exactly what i had in mind.
How much money would it take to really get this project off the ground?
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: Rekoil on December 23, 2010, 10:24:15 AM
That first item on the list, the "Hex-Rays Decompiler for ARM", would greatly speed up the process as it makes it a lot easier for us to see how things are done by Apple. But as you can see it's very expensive hehe.
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: bestlink101 on December 28, 2010, 05:02:14 AM
* recommendation* put some adds on the websites Idroid owns, i am sure that will help costs ALOT!!!!!! just a good suggestion
Title: Re: What can I do to get Idroid on Iphone 4 asap?
Post by: bestlink101 on December 28, 2010, 05:10:53 AM
For info for advertising on this site email me, lol i kind of feel weird saying this but i can help for money wise if we do this? maybe lol